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31 May 2007 @ 01:30 pm
That's all I have to say...  
I know, I'm not going to make friends with this post. I know, some of you will disagree with me and/or want to bite my head off.

We all know about the so-called "Strikethrough 2007" here on LiveJournal. But seriously, people...

  1. first of all, please, please stop using these icons "Never Forget - 29/05/07" or "LiveJournal - where writing fanfiction means your're a pedo" and so on. They are stupid, childish, embarrassing and completely missing the point. You have no idea how outsiders start to think about us. And believe me, it is not something we can be proud of.

  2. would it hurt to dig a little deeper before you go on a witch hunt? If you had done that, you would have found out that Warriors for Innocence is indeed working with the Law Enforcement and other organisations that are trying to report sites which consist of Child Rape, Child Molestation, Child Sex, Child Porn.

    Sites like ANU or CLogo. From the first site a user links to his livejournal. His first one was shut down and only a few days later this new one was up and running.

    You see, there are journals of pedophiles among us. And it's not the only one: Pedoblog Tracker has got a long list with journals suspended or deleted. Some of the journal names tell you exactly what the journal was all about.

  3. it's not the first time, pedoblogs have been shut down. On Blogger/Blogspot and MySpace is happened last month. You don't have to freak out like some of you did. I know that innocent journals/communities went down but you can talk to the LJ Team and they will restore your journal/community.

    If anyone is to blame for this, it is LiveJournal because they screwed up and not groups like Warrior for Innocence or Pedoblog. LiveJournal was too rash in its attempt to shut down suspicious journals/communities.

  4. I have the feeling that you are more concerned with the "Strikethrough" itself than why it happened. It looks as if you value free speech more than the safety of a child. (Absolute Zero)

  5. what angers me the most is that these monsters are not only abusing children, they are also betraying my trust in LiveJournal. I have a 13-year old sister that got a journal here. I'm thankful that LiveJournal finally took actions against those who would love nothing more than to violate here, be it in their mind, be it online or wherever.

This is my personal opinion and since you all are so insisting on free speech, I will stand by it. Like I said, things could have done better by LiveJournal but that is not reason enough to go against WFI.

Feel free to shoot me now. Afterall, we're the world of free speech, right?

(Please excuse any mistakes - I'm way too angry and fed up with this right now)
Salisalivia_baker on May 31st, 2007 11:40 am (UTC)
ooookay.. what is going on? what is this "Strikethrough 2007"?
Angie: actors: cake pornicequeen3101 on May 31st, 2007 11:56 am (UTC)

it's all over LJ at the moment and almost everybody seems to have an opinion about it.
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Caiyene: Garfield so?caiyene on May 31st, 2007 11:54 am (UTC)
You know I actually agree with you. The hype that is going on is just wrong.

and yeah I do think that some fanfic should not be allowed. Yes there is artistic creativity, but some people just use it to exercise their deep dark morbid thoughts and aren't even good at it. Or know what they are writing about. Annoying as hell.
Mercymercscilla on May 31st, 2007 12:54 pm (UTC)
I'm the first to defend fanfiction. Without it I wouldn't survive a day.

But there has to be line between harmless stories and those that definitely aren't. These stories should never make into any board/forum/community/etc.

aren't even good at it. Or know what they are writing about. Annoying as hell.

God, I love stories that make absolutely no sense at all /sarcasm
xfairy1013: Amandaxfairy1013 on May 31st, 2007 11:54 am (UTC)
Me thinks she missed something while she was in London... Strikethrough 2007?
Angie: fs: hand holdingicequeen3101 on May 31st, 2007 11:58 am (UTC)


It's not so bad to have missed it, there are more important things in the world ;)
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Angie: fs: Bad Timingicequeen3101 on May 31st, 2007 12:00 pm (UTC)
I'm with you,
if you have/had a journal with interests like rape or incest and it was actually REALLY only a RPG one... well...
LJ apologized & is trying to sort through the mess.
What else should they have done ??
thisbequeerchik on May 31st, 2007 12:04 pm (UTC)
I agree with you as well - it's good that they suspended/deleted/will delete the journals that actually do belong to pedophiles and such. The only thing that really pissed me off about it was how they went about it, which they apologized for and are trying to correct, anyway.
Spex: Elizabeth - Peter Panspeckleberry on May 31st, 2007 12:12 pm (UTC)
You know i'm glad that i've completely missed all this, i've basically (except because Sapph showed me a post about it) But i think - by reading what you've written, you're right. I agree with you that alot of people on LJ have a habit of jumping the gun.

*is blissfully ignorant*
Sapph: POTC - WTF?sapphs on May 31st, 2007 12:22 pm (UTC)
Well said.

I'm SICK of seeing people writing such rude comments. My god! It was a mistake. Mistakes happen. These people going on about how their trust was betrayed need to step back and stop being so self-centred.

As for those icons... My opinion is that they are childish and just expose people for the ignorant, rash persons they are.
serenaelizabethswan_ on May 31st, 2007 12:52 pm (UTC)
Would you mind if I share this on my journal? Just to show another side of the strikethrough?
Mercy: [Bones] Bones - blue girlmercscilla on May 31st, 2007 01:35 pm (UTC)
Nope, I wouldn't mind. In fact I would welcome it :)
Jupiter: Amanda Tapping - Sanctuarykateheightmeyer on May 31st, 2007 02:33 pm (UTC)
Ich hab kaum was mitbekommen.
Das ist bisher mehr oder weniger an mir vorbei gezogen ;D .


Aber verstehen kann ich die ganze Nummer auch nicht. Ich meine, worüber regt man sich denn auf?? LJ versucht doch die Fandoms (die versehentlich gelöscht worden sind) zu überprüfen und wieder zu öffnen. Oder nicht??
Also, wo isn das Problem?
Und Icy hats ja geschrieben, sie entschuldigen sich ja auch dafür.
Also, ich versteh es nicht *lach*.

Mercymercscilla on May 31st, 2007 02:52 pm (UTC)
Ist auch besser so :D

LJ versucht doch die Fandoms (die versehentlich gelöscht worden sind) zu überprüfen und wieder zu öffnen. Oder nicht??

Ganz genau. Die sind nach der Interests-Liste gegangen und haben angefangen zu löschen. Jetzt werden Journals/Communities überprüft und wieder geöffnet. Fandom-LJs waren auch darunter, aber nicht so viele und vor allem waren die schon von zweifelhaftem Inhalt.

Ich hab auch kein Verständnis für all den Hype. Fandom ist halt nur ins Kreuzfeuer geraten *shrug*
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megan lynn: aeryn smiles so prettymeganlynn09 on May 31st, 2007 02:59 pm (UTC)
I don't have any strong feelings about what's happening one way or the other, but to a degree, I'm definitely agreeing with you. *hugs you* You're awesome for putting this up.
Napoleonic Powermonger: Aeryn2valeria_sg_1 on May 31st, 2007 03:07 pm (UTC)
I totally agree with you. My Flist was spammed by people screaming blue murder and venting about free speech. When in reality, they care about free speech only when it's *theirs*.

I hate that.
Riekeriekchen on May 31st, 2007 04:13 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I totaly agree with you. And I still think it's a good thing what LJ has done. They may have a bit overdone it, but they realized it and are fixing it. So where's the problem? Isn't it better to do too much against this than just do nothing?
tickledpink1705tickledpink1705 on May 31st, 2007 04:44 pm (UTC)
I couldn't agree with you more Mercy! *claps*

The whole 'thing' with icons and banners and stuff is just putting LJ to shame.
Afterall - if they didn't delete the 'bad' journals, LJ would just get a really bad reputation (as well as putting others in danger). It's only human that LJ misunderstood some profiles and deleted some innocent peoples journals.

Geez - everybody needs to take a chill pill!

i am jack's broken heart ★: [Kibbs] I love you.already_used on May 31st, 2007 04:58 pm (UTC)
Auch ihr Recht auf "Free Speech" nehm. xD

Also erstmal stimme ich dir im Großen und Ganzen zu. Und diese vielen Icons mit den netten Aufschriften bzw. die Einheitsinterst-Sachen die da so rumschwirren sind echt nur kindisch; aber naja. Sollen sie machen denk ich.

Ich finde es auch in Ordnung, dass LJ diese ganze Aktion durchgezogen hat (MySpace, BlogSpot haben es ja schon vorgemacht), aber das einzige wo ich so bisschen WTF? bin ist, dass sie auch die Fiction Comms geschlossen haben.
Ich war/bin selber betroffen gewesen, da ich Harry/Snape Gernhaber bin und dort halt auch einige Comms suspended wurden ... und ich darauf zur Sicherheit auch meine Interests verändert hab.

Ich denke halt einfach, dass diese ganze Fiction Sache bisschen untergegangen ist in dieser Mass-Delete-Aktion. Und das find ich bisschen schade. Weil Fiction ist nun einmal Fiction. Sicherlich können da auch (potenzielle) Phädophile ihre Gedanken zum Ausdruck bringen, aber wenn man danach geht müsste man ziemlich viel schließen.

Ja. Bitte nicht Kopf abreißen; ist meine bescheidene Meinung dazu. Und ich denke dieser "Hype" ist mehr oder weniger aus Panik ausgebrochen und die meisten haben sich gar keine Gedanken über die Situation gemacht, sondern bei denen haben gleich die Alarmglocken geläutet. Außerdem war gestern noch nicht bekannt, dass die Journals nochmal überprüft werden und ggf. wieder eröffent werden.
War halt seitens Livejournal alles eine Hals über Kopf Situation ohne genaue Informationen oder ähnlichem. Find ich jedenfalls. :S

Im Endeffekt, wie schon gesagt, find ich es natürlich trotzdem richtig, dass es gemacht wurde. Ich hoffe jetzt nur, dass die Fiction Comms (jedenfalls die harmlosen; weiß ja nicht was noch alles gelöscht wurde bzw. da rumschwirrt o_O) nochmal überprüft werden und ggf. wieder geöffnet werden. :)

*jetzt auf Standpauke wart*

Mercymercscilla on May 31st, 2007 06:13 pm (UTC)
*grins* *tieeeeef Luft holt* ^_______^

Deine Meinung ist gar nicht falsch. Ich bin auch sauer, dass Fiction Journals rausgeworfen wurden, die absolut nichts, aber auch gar nichts, mit dem eigentlichen Thema zu tun haben.

Wie du gesagt hast, hat bei dem LJ Team wahrscheinlich so ein Flail-Attacke eingesetzt, dass sie einfach losgelöscht haben.

Nun überprüfen sie die Journals und ich bin sicher, dein Snarry kommt ganz schnell wieder, denn LJ wollte ja nicht Fiction bannen, sondern Journals von Pädophilen.

Denn ich bin der Meinung, dass die Geschichten von Pädophilen eher zu 'Original Fiction' zählen als Fan Fiction.

So weit ich weiß, sind so einige "Porn-Communities" rausgeworfen worden und solche, die verdächtige Interests gelistet hatten (child love, girl love, boy love, rape, incest,...). LJ hätte einfach genauer gucken müssen, nicht wahr?

Siehste, eigentlich stehen wir auf der gleichen Seite :D
what a crazy random happenstancealianne on May 31st, 2007 05:34 pm (UTC)
*delurks to share opinion*

THANK YOU for this post! So there are still sane people out there! I'm only sporadically reading LJ at the moment, but I saw several posts regarding this issue.

I agree with you. LJ might have screwed up, but their intentions were the right ones.